Digital Fashion

Danit Peleg, a 3D printing fashion designer, discusses her work in the fashion industry and the potential of 3D printing in fashion. She explains her research on developing sustainable and flexible materials that behave like real fabric. Danit shares her journey of creating the world's first fashion collection printed entirely using desktop 3D printers. She also talks about her website and online course where she teaches others how to create their own 3D printed textiles. The conversation explores the challenges and opportunities of 3D printing in fashion, including the need for faster printers and better materials. The conversation explores the potential of 3D printing and blockchain technology in the fashion industry. It discusses the concept of digital fashion, where garments are created and worn virtually, and the role of NFTs in securing and tracking digital fashion files. The conversation also highlights the democratization of fashion through open-source files and the potential for creativity and collaboration in the industry. 

• 3D printing has the potential to revolutionize the fashion industry by offering sustainable alternatives to traditional production and consumption methods.
• Developing flexible and recyclable materials is crucial for the advancement of 3D printed fashion.
• Education and awareness are key in encouraging fashion designers to explore and embrace 3D printing technology.
• Faster printers and better materials are needed to overcome current limitations and fully realize the potential of 3D printing in fashion. 3D printing and blockchain technology have the potential to revolutionize the fashion industry.
• Digital fashion allows for virtual creation and wearing of garments, with NFTs securing and tracking the digital files.
• Open-source files and sharing ideas can democratize fashion and foster creativity and collaboration.
• The combination of 3D printing, blockchain, and digital fashion opens up new possibilities for designers and consumers.

Transcript

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[00:00:00] So how are you doing today, Dustin? Doing well looking forward to this next conversation we have today. Yeah, I'm very interested in it and you found the, this, this person to come join us and hearing more about the topic will be, be excellent. I think it relates a little bit to my background as far as on the art and design side.
So I'm very interested to hear the topic today, you know, how did you find this guest? Yeah. So you know, to me, this is kind of exciting cause this is someone that I've been following you know, via LinkedIn amongst other things for a couple of years, and I actually came across her presenting on a panel.
I think it was a women in 3d event a couple of years ago, if I'm not mistaken, I happened to reach out to her cause I, I felt like she was doing some really cool things. And, and so for the people who are listening in today you know, I haven't spoken to this guest for quite a while, so I'll be learning [00:01:00] about you know, the latest and greatest of what's happening just like everyone else.
So I'm, I'm excited to kind of learn more. Yeah. It always makes it more interesting when, you know, you're not fully delved into what the topic and history of, of what's, what we're about to talk about. So bring her on and we'll, we'll go ahead and get, get growing. All right. So I'm, I'm really excited to have on the show today, Danit Peleg she works in the fashion industry and just so I don't misconstrue anything, Danit, could you tell us a little bit about yourself?
Where you're based and what you've been working on. Absolutely. First of all, thank you so much for having me. It's really a pleasure. And yeah, as Dustin was explaining, we've been talking for a while and you actually helped me a lot during my career. So maybe we'll touch base that during our conversation today.
But yeah, I'm a 3d printing fashion designer. I am mostly. researching on this topic and developing better materials [00:02:00] that are sustainable and are, and behave like a real fabrics you want to put against your skin. So I am researching a lot about different kinds of structures of textiles, different kinds of materials, different kinds of compositions of materials.
So they will behave like something soft and and And will be easy to 3d print using FDM. I am mostly into researching on this technology than others, but I did worked with all kinds of other 3d printing that can, you know suggest some solution for 3d printed textiles. So, yeah, so I've been doing it.
Since 2015, I studied fashion design at a university and I decided to try and 3D print an entire fashion collection instead of sewing it like my friends did at school. And I end up making the world first fashion collection printed [00:03:00] entirely using desktop 3D printers. So literally overnight it was like.
Like a major media sensation it went viral with 100 of press stories from like all the biggest outlets you can imagine and millions of views on the video that I was sharing on Facebook back in 2015 and literally this is just that's how my career started. I learned that there is a lot of curiosity and and like a lot of interest in this field of 3D printed textiles and 3D printed fashion in general and there is not so much research about it.
So, so that's, that's what led me to double click on this technology and, and literally started my journey. So you had your entire collection printed. How many pieces were in the collection? So it was five looks head to toe from the, the [00:04:00] five models were 100 percent 3d printed materials, including shoes and accessories and soft textiles and dresses and jackets and skirts.
And you can see it on my website if you're interested to see it. And yeah, I would never imagine that it will get so much press and so much interest. It was just like a fun, interesting project for me. I was always interested in fashion, like combining fashion and technology. So it was really makes sense to me to use 3D printers.
But yeah, it was five looks. When I started, wow, that's impressive. Go ahead, Dustin. And could you just say your, your website so that for people listening in, they can take a look. Cause I know you've done a lot of work and I think at least the last I saw you had a whole course as well on 3d printing and fashion.
Could you just tell a little bit about that? Yeah, absolutely. So my website is the natepelec. com. I was just rebuild it. So I would love to hear what do you [00:05:00] think about it? But yeah, I also have my online course where I teach students or like, you know, designers or whoever is interested to start their journey with 3d printed textile, like really like the basic, you don't need to have any knowledge to start your journey with this course.
And yeah, I'm teaching how to create your own 3D printed textiles, and different approaches, and the history, and what's been done so far, and what can happen in the future, and why I believe in this technology. And it's very fun and informative course. Excellent. I have lots and lots of questions and 1 being is that I, I worked at an art and design university and we ran a lab that produced parts via 3D printing and we had a fashion design program and I worked heavily with 1, 1 designer.
I don't recall her last name. Her 1st name was Leonie. She was from Germany. But we did only one look, we did an entire dress that [00:06:00] was printed out of FDM and it was a huge struggle for us to work through because she didn't really have the ability to, to draw anything in 3d. So for you to produce.
Multiple pieces. Where did you learn how to get your parts into 3d and what software are you using? Can you describe a little bit about that process? Yeah, absolutely. First of all, I had nine months to create five looks and like to create an entire fashion collection. So I was starting researching online and looking for solutions and couldn't find anything about it.
So I teach myself any, everything. And I found a small maker space where I add a few different 3D printers. One of them was, I think, like a PORSA Mini WITBOX which worked really well with soft, like, TPU, and some other 3D print, MakerBot, stuff like that. So the first, The first part of the research was which printer can print [00:07:00] soft materials.
That was the most important key. Cause like the key property of a real textiles has to be soft and flexible. And so I realized PLA is not going to work. And even though I started with the. PLA and soft structures like flexible structures, thinking that maybe this will work, but it was very rigid and breakable.
So the models like, you know, that the fabrics was really breakable. I couldn't use it for like creating a real dress. So I moved really quickly to use TPU. Mostly I was using Filaflex back then. And yeah, and so, so that's how I started. I teach myself everything around, like, you know, how to use the printers, how to assemble them, even how to build a printer.
In, like, one month, I think I had for, for this kind of research. And then I found, like, in this makerspace, they were so excited to see First of all, like, to see a female walking in, but also like, to see this thing [00:08:00] coming to life, like, see, like, the real, the first meter of fabric, like, to see my sketches becoming, like, 3D modeling So, so the, the first challenge I was facing, the second challenge I was facing was to 3D model, the shape of the garments.
I knew how to use softwares to create the pattern of the garments, means. Now fashion designers mostly, they're not using paper and rulers anymore. We use software where you can design the, the garments like. Like on demand like on the like a digital version of it. So I'm pretty good with it. I was using back then I was using the software of Gerber technology.
Now I'm using Optitex and other softwares to to create my patterns of the garments. And then once you have it, it's like a 2D. You can. You can have it as
like a flat PDF and then export it into Blender or other softwares. I'm using Blender in my work. [00:09:00] And then in Blender you can design the, like, the fabrics embedded the, it depends if you want to use the, like, the fabrics just like like a long piece of fabric and then, you know, turn it to be the shape of the, the fabric, or you want to 3d modeling completely the garments.
So I'm using different approaches. In this collection, the first collection that I made, I use all of the, all of these approaches. One of them was using little parts, like like little segments of parts and then assemble them together using Like a jewelry method. Or the, the second approach was to print long piece of fabrics and then cut it into shape into the shape of the dress.
So just like you use a regular fabric. And the third approach was 3d modeling, complete, completely the jackets or the, the, the dresses from, from the flats. patterns and turn it into the shapes. So [00:10:00] yeah, so the software, the process is making the shape of the garments using this pattern making software, using Blender to convert it into, or 3D modeling the design of the, of the, the shapes of like the, the actual files.
And yeah, and then 3D print it obviously. But yeah, but that's that's what's fun about it. You get to see the version. You get to see the final object in like the digital form from all angles and do all the changes in between. I was printing it with a paper printer. To assemble it into like a shape of of of the garment just like a puzzle.
And then I tried it on. So I saw the sleeves are too long or too short. So I was able to do all these changes before I went to production. So when I actually went to 3D print the parts, I knew in like 99 percent that it's going to be good. So I'm not wasting time and, you know, and effort and material.
So yeah, so [00:11:00] that's, that's the process basically. Amazing. It's great. And so Denise, I I'd like to ask a kind of a really tough question here because you know, I, I work with a lot of, we'll say manufacturing focused people with additive, and when I bring up anything that deals with art or fashion or design, sometimes.
People kind of turn off because they think, Hey, there's, there's not a lot that can be done there. Or maybe it's not a very big market or something like that. And personally, you know, some of my family members who kind of worked in the scenic arts industry I know that it can be a very big industry and a big play.
And so given that there's not many experts in this space that, that I'm aware of you know, what keeps you motivated and excited about 3d printing in fashion in
particular? And where do you think the future will go with this? I know there's [00:12:00] still a lot of bugs and things to be worked out, but it's gone a long ways in a pretty short period of time, I might say.
Yeah, totally. Yeah. And it's a great question. I'm getting this question all the time. Like, when will it be like, when will you be able to use it as like mass production? Like, what's the point of taking so long? It's so, it's such a complicated process and it's a trap. And and I think once the materials will evolve, we will see a huge step into Thank you.
To this technology. There is a huge need. I don't know how much you familiar with the fashion industry and the problems. It's bringing to the world. But everyone in the fashion industry is looking for more sustainable alternative to the way we produce and consume fashion today. And 3D printing has a lot to offer in like in in a few years when material will evolve.
It can bring a huge solution, like a huge alternative to the way we produce fashion today. First [00:13:00] of all, I'll start with the materials that we're developing. I am working with an amazing team at at Moon Creative Lab. It's it's a lab based in Palo Alto in Tokyo. We've been working on developing materials that are sustainable.
And and that are made to be circular and we've been working on this research since 2019 and these materials that we're developing are the, the, the idea behind it is to create a workflow where you can design your garments in like the digital. You know, world suggested to your client or communicate with your team wherever you are, because you don't need to send anything like physically, you can send just files and simulations of the fabric or off the, the garments.
The whole process completely digital. So I'm able to custom customize it to make like a dress for someone without meeting her in person and make it. Fit her [00:14:00] like a glove which I can tell you about an experience I had with the Olympics a few years ago, which I had to make a dress exactly in this flow, and it's worked perfectly.
But yeah, I'm able to create everything digitally, so no need to send anything physical between us. Then I am able to use this material that are completely recyclable. So once I'm done using this material, using this dress, I am able to recycle it and create something new out of it. It's a it can be done completely like to be like a personalized so you can choose the material you want to have.
So if it's like summer day, you'll be able to use materials that has cotton in it. And if it's winter, you'll be able to use material that has wool in them. And then
personalize it by choosing your, your, you know, your style, your color, write your name in the back. I don't know, doing all these fun personalization things.
There is no waste when you produce a 3D printed garments because every part, as I mentioned, has a role [00:15:00] and we've been using like we're printing. printing it to the shape. So you print the sleeve. There is no extra material, which is not possible to achieve with the traditional way of, you know, fashion design.
Today only on the, like the cutting process, there is like 15 percent waste of all the garments, everything we wear, there is extra 15 percent material that went to, Trash or went underground or even worse being burned. So imagine like this amount of material that is just from the leftovers. And then today only 1 percent of the clothes of the world is being recycled.
Only 1%. So with 3D printed textiles, once material will evolve and will be even just like hybrid clothing we will be able to, to recycle, you know, most of the materials which is amazing. And yeah, and and then, you know, We talked about like there is no shipping cost, there is no need for inventory [00:16:00] because everything is completely digital.
So, you know, many times big brands produce way too much styles and designs that are not successful and there end up as waste under the ground. But with 3D printing and digital form, you're able to be part of the choose what you want to wear. So really digital fashion become, became something. Bigger since covered, but 3D printing is really closing the gap between digital to physical.
And that's what I found so interesting. And what keeps me wake up in the morning and continue in another day of my research and spreading the, the, you know, the what's possible to achieve with this technology and creating. More content and, you know, designs with 3d printed fashion. What's kept me so excited about it is to see it progressing and seeing my, you know, vision becoming more and more real.
And that's, that's really, [00:17:00] really exciting. And I really hope in a few years it will be like, you know, basic thing, like print textiles. Yeah. Why not? You can print it locally. You can do it anywhere. And there is this just, it just makes sense once it will, will get faster and, you know, material will be better than we will be achieve amazing patterns.
And so, like the creativity will sky skyrocketing because there is no limited to what you can 3D print. Like your imagination is your limitation. So imagine what will happen with. The fashion industry will take it as a tool and will use to
create their own textiles and structures and amazing patterns that we cannot make otherwise, you know?
So yeah, so that's, that's basically really long answer to your question. Let's keep me so motivated and interested in, This technology, well, there's a lot there and it's expanding in all directions all at [00:18:00] once. So it's no surprise. It's a long answer. Yeah, exactly. What do you think are your biggest challenges with producing fashion being 3d printed as opposed to maybe a traditional way?
Like what do you feel like it's not any more challenging? It's just maybe a different type of challenge or are there things that you would. Find easier to do in a traditional fashion as opposed to 3d printing and vice versa. Yeah, both, both of them. Like I find some parts of it are so much easier, so much easier to communicate to the creative production team in Rio.
Where I made a dress for the Paralympics opening ceremony and millions, hundreds of millions of people saw these 3d printed dress in action. On stage, and it was so easy to communicate how the dress is going to look like. How is it going to look like in movement? How is it going to fit the dancer?
How is it going [00:19:00] to, you know, creating like the shade of the color, even like everything was so easy to communicate because, you know, you can send digital simulation in like five clicks. And And so this is hard to achieve when you work with traditional fabrics, they always look, you know, they have this behavior of a fabric that it's hard to mimic compared to, you know, materials where we're using in 3D printing.
So yeah, so simulations and communication is easier. And then what I find it's harder is the time to print finding like knowledgeable people that will know how to work with my materials, like really easily and quickly and achieving the best result with the best, you know, settings, etc. So if we're doing like a panel user or a group of people that were given them the material to test will get different results, you know, and it's [00:20:00] challenging to get everyone aligned with different printers and having the exactly same quality that I'm getting when I'm using with my materials or with 3D printing materials, soft 3D printing materials in general.
And then time to print. I guess that's, that's another challenge. So I think, I think I see it as like a triangle teaching and and educating the market and educating young fashion designers to explore this technology. And then explain to them, like, show them that it's possible if you put your mind on it, you can 3D print the textiles.
It's not like something, you know, out of space. And then the other challenge is the time to print materials has to evolve and like, get bigger and faster. Faster. And this is, I was involved in another research project on this field. So now I'm using a printer that is in the size of like half a meter and half a meter.
Not sure how much is it in inches, but it's, [00:21:00] it's pretty big. It's like 500 millimeter and 500 millimeter. And so, and we had four extruders running the same time. So each extruder printing its own section. So at the end, it's a, it's allowing to have like a large piece of fabrics in like four times faster than with only one nozzle.
So that was a project that was involved funding by Horizon 2020 by the EU. And I'm still using this technology in my work. So that's, that's really exciting. So printers needs to be faster, bigger. Smarter. And then the last thing is having better materials that are easy to print, that are recyclable, that are made from sustainable material, not just creating more plastic to the world.
Um, and and yeah, and then approaching brands and suggesting them to test them, work with them and doing all this. Case study. But yeah, so I think once we'll solve this [00:22:00] triangle of educating the market, faster printer, better materials, then this technology will immediately will move forward and will become something bigger than what it is right now for fashion.
Uses do you find that 3d printing a fabric gives you another aspect in the sense of like, now it creates noise or it's, it's, it's going to be a little bit different than a normal fabric. I mean, some will make some noise when they, when they touch, but I would imagine the 3d printed garments are a little bit more, that's interesting. Never thought about it. I don't think my fabrics making any noise, but they're definitely, you know I can, I can make them. And like, you can also see it on my website or on my Instagram account, the need for like 3d. I am trying to share as much as possible on social media, but.
You can see some of the fabrics that I, that I made that are so soft and flexible and and [00:23:00] very, very thin, like just a few layers of materials. So it's, it's actually, it's feels nice on the skin and and you know, it's starting to look like fabrics you're, we are familiar with and then giving them some secondary treatments or doing other, you know, manipulation to them.
We'll make them look more and more like, you know, like fabrics. We, we know today. And yeah, except the, the amazing structures we can imagine we can create and like we can achieve with this technology. So that's. actually makes it more unique. What about, are there materials that you think that, or are there limitations to the materials that you have used that you wish there was a material that did X, Y, and Z, that maybe it was more flexible, maybe it was
softer or things that you currently don't have access to? Yeah. So I was working with other technologies like SLS [00:24:00] and SLA and even with multi jets printers and all of them allowing us to create different, you know, giving us better different benefits. So it's like really pros and cons in each technology and what you can achieve. But for example, with SLS, you can achieve amazing knitting structures that it's really hard or even impossible to achieve with FDM to the, to the point that it's really behave like knitted fabric, like something we are familiar with this structure of knitted, but you can achieve it with SLS and it's so unique and cool.
But then the materials, the soft TPU materials are, are not very durable there, you know, at, at some point they can go back to powders or like they, they, they can be less, you know like rigid for the long term depend on which material, of course, but then. If you get to the [00:25:00] really softer materials that usually they're not listing for a long time as you wish it to be.
So yeah, and even with the PolyJet, like, where you're able to print multiple materials in one print, that's really unique. Like, you can achieve something really cool, but then, again, like the, the soft compared to the rigid materials, and when you print it in one print are. Like nothing compared to like how long will it stay and how long can you touch it and like You know, models on the runway can walk with them and feel comfortable with it and et cetera.
So I think in all sectors, in all the materials, in all the, in all the technologies, there is, there is a need for more researcher and more developer into making more materials that's that will lead us to something similar to textile like results. And something that you can, use [00:26:00] it for, like, long time, you know, that's it.
Well, at least but yeah, but I think every technology as is benefits and and then the limitations is mostly. The materials right now for fashion, how do you, how do you approach post processing? So like, do you do a secondary finish on, on the parts that you print or is the material always the material when it comes off the machine? Let me think how long, how deep can I like, how much can I reveal? Yes, we are exploring a lot of like different approaches with a lot of like secondary treatments, just like in. Fashion industry is doing like when you wear your, the jeans you're wearing right now, most likely had a long, like secondary treatments than than what you can imagine, like different washing and different stone washing and then different dyeing [00:27:00] processes and, and even laser to, to create this vein into the fabric and so much, Secondary processes than just a raw denim fabric.
So same with 3D printed fabrics. And we, we believe that if we, if we will use the methods or similar methods to what's been using with the, the fashion, the
current fashion industry right now, and learning from it and treating our fabric like a real fabric then will. It will, it will end up with more interesting results.
And and so this is one of the approaches I am researching a lot about combining PVA in my work in different approaches, not as, not as supports as different parts of the fabrics and different uses. So PVA is is an interesting topic to explore in this direction.
And yeah, [00:28:00] we're just treating our fabric and we, we, we use it and the way we we see them as like legitimate fabrics and we're just treating them just like any other fabric we're using for production of garments in the current way we use. We do it right now.
All right. And, you know, I, again, I'd like to kind of just reach out to some people who might be listening and who don't know a lot about the fashion industry. And so, Denise, maybe you could just clarify a little bit why. 3d printing or additive, or we'll say digital workflows are such a big deal for the fashion space meaning like what kind of problems does it solve and, and what kind of new opportunities does it open?
Because I don't think as many people are aware of, of why this is a big deal. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a, that's a, that's a big [00:29:00] issue. We don't know that fashion industry is the second most polluting industry in the world after energy. So fashion industry shouldn't be like that, but we're so obsessed with like fast fashion and then like getting our new trends in like in, in such a speed.
And you know, in the, like the fashion is changing all the time. With 3D printing, you'll be able to design and like create even like super fast fashion because you can achieve a design without doing the whole production behind it in like in like, so let's say, like, even like, even using AI that's check, checking the trends.
all the time and letting you see like having a garments that is like, that is online or on chain even. And as an NFT, for example, and it's changing based on trends and based on seasons and based on like, what's [00:30:00] hot on the market right now on the, on the internet right now. And like, You're paying for like a sort of like subscription for for this fashion brand, because you love this brand and you get to have the latest, you know, the latest trends, like literally every day.
And then maybe production will happen locally like we used to go and like develop. Pictures or the brand send it to you, custom made to your
measurements, and then you own the material so you can send it back and make something new out of it. There is like a different scenarios, like that sounds like science fiction right now.
But it can be happen because we have to look for other ways to, to produce fashion because it's, it's impossible that fashion will stay the second most polluting industry in the world is just, you know, it's just can happen. And the new generations are looking for better, better, [00:31:00] you know, better and more sustainable solutions.
So. So yeah, so I think just small changes won't do enough. We need to rethink about the whole process from scratch and use technology to empower this new, you know, tools that we have and new approaches that we can achieve using, you know, technology. Technology. Yeah, and I was going to say, I think that's a great point to make.
Because I don't believe a lot of people understand how big of a shift this could potentially be and the best way I kind of. I'm thinking about this is I don't know if you happen to ever know your, your great grandparents. One of mine was around until I was about 10 or 12 and she would sometimes make clothing for me.
It could be, you know, slippers, it could be a shirt. And I know she used to also make custom clothing for my mother growing up. And so the way I, I see happening with this [00:32:00] shift is, you know, just a couple of generations ago, people were making their own clothing or maybe hiring someone to make clothing for them.
And that was just the way you, you got your clothes and, and, you know, in the last we'll say hundred ish years, we now have these department stores where you can go and buy them, we'll say mass production. And I think what's, what you're kind of getting at, Danit, and you can elaborate a little bit further is, we're, we might be on the precipice of entering a new way to acquire and design and decide what we're going to wear and when, in that the whole business model of how we, we come up with clothing and acquire clothing could be fundamentally different than In as soon as our lifetimes, if not sooner.
And, and, you know, maybe you can elaborate a little bit more on that, especially when you start combining things like the blockchain or [00:33:00] NFTs. Mm-Hmm. and, and keep it simple, because there's still a lot of people out there that, that aren't as up to speed as you are with it. But maybe you can elaborate about maybe what that vision looks like in the future from, from where you sit now.
Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll tell you, like, I'll give you an example. And I, I really wanted to try it out and like, do an experiment with like, let's, let's talk about NFTs really quick. So one of the common question I was getting, okay, cool. So fashion will be digital. You'll be able to go to a shop and like try on, you know, it's still going to have shops, so it's going to be like an experience.
You go to a shop and you see like on the mirror, how it fits you, or you can try it on just like samples and then produce it for you. But then, okay. Files are digital. I want to communicate with designers in Japan. How can I, how can I communicate with them? So that's when, when I started researching about NFTs, I [00:34:00] think it was back to 2020.
I started collected some art. I have a crypto punk, which is like considered to be the first NFTs. And like, that's what I will give to my children when I'll, when I'll have to give them instead of a house, maybe I'll give them a crypto punk. But, but yeah, so, so. So, yeah, so, so NFTs is, is an experiment I've been done.
So I was uploading my digital files as garments along with unlockable folders. So once you collect my NFT and you said, okay, I wanna buy this jacket from the neat you get an un unlockable folder that has. A sort of like an IKEA instruction on how you 3D print each part. What's the step by step?
What, what's, what's part you print first, what material, what settings? And then a step by step on how to assemble them. Using a really easy going gluing process that I also [00:35:00] developed and then once you have the garments ready, you can send me a photos of the final garment and I'll send you a special label that given, you know, my approval.
that you are the collector of this garment and you have the NFT number with it. And and I approve the result of the garments. I'm giving my name behind it. So you get a special notification and like a special label that you can 3d print as well with your NFT number with my signature. And now both the physical and the digital files has value.
Because you can go on and show it in a museum like they did in in a university in, in in London. They bought my NFT, the student printed the garments all together the assembly together, and I send them the, the [00:36:00] sterification that's like this, this garment is approved and now they show it in their museum of school.
So, and other people also 3D printed their garments just for fun. And send me the picture. So the experiment worked. People are actually went. They bought my digital files. I got to secure them. So now I can see, like, at least give them
another layer of security because it's not. Fully securely on, on, you know, on the blockchain.
It's still unlockable folder that is not sitting on the blockchain, the garment itself sitting on the blockchain. So in 50 years from now, I'll be able to track where is my jacket. Maybe it's changed hands. Maybe they sold it, maybe you still own it. I can see which wallet has it. And in 50 years, I'll be able to communicate to you like new versions of it, or you'll be able to print it a piece of garment from 2020 and see how it looks like in, you know in 50 years from now.
So I don't know. [00:37:00] So that's, that's just the fun experiments to how you can secure digital files. And digital, you know, digital files of fashion that are also 3D printable on the blockchain and and, and, and, you know, and collect it and communicate that way. And, and also like there is, this is just the beginning of what's this technology can offer.
It can also offer you to to be connected to like a smart contract. So the, the garment is changing over time, as I was just mentioning using like AI, but it also can be done. On the blockchain. So it will change and evolve and grow and improve. And, you know, and, and I can just continue communicate with the collectors that bought my garments.
Um, so, so yeah, so that's, that's just a very I don't know, maybe like, I don't know if the word easy, but it's easy, easier way to secure your files and [00:38:00] communicate with your collectors and and, you know, and, and even and have given you a sort of secure security what's, what is happening with your files and et cetera.
Yeah. To me, what's so cool about that is it makes it almost a functional tradable art in that you could download, print, assemble, and wear the clothing as you would every day. But you could also. You know, trade on the market, your NFT for, you know, some kind of collateral. If it's us dollars or Bitcoin or something else.
And it can, and it's also memorialized as well on the blockchain and then leveraging smart contracts, like you mentioned, you could make updates to it. So it, it morphs and modifies over time, which would only continue to add value to whoever owns it. Exactly. [00:39:00] Yeah. And this is just the beginning of what's possible to achieve.
Yeah. And to me, that's what's so hard for a lot of people to wrap their heads around because it's, it's a completely different way of interacting with the
designer like yourself or, or, or using clothing as an example with digital technologies.
Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how it increases the use as, as we progress because, you know, my generation and generations a little bit older than me are like, Whoa, there's no tangible object immediately, right? So I can see fashion online. You never buy anything like wearable on the internet. I, I mean, I have, yes.
Yeah. Yes, yes, I have. But it, the, the concept of almost like buying a file or a digital Mm. You know, it's not a tangible thing that I'm holding in my hand until, okay, got it. [00:40:00] Something else happens is probably harder for older generations to, to understand. Right. Right. But younger generations will immediately, you know, already have in a way adopted and that'll be the, the method of doing a lot of business.
So it would be interesting. But a generation like my parents, they still, it's hard for them to go and buy fashion online. Like, I don't think I, I don't remember when was the last time I actually bought something in a store. Honestly, I am everything I do is like I order online. So, so, so that's where that was a huge shift that suddenly happened, you know and.
And that could happen again, you know, a new shift of not buying, like you, you actually do buy the final object because you want to wear it. But imagine like you, you want to make your dream dress or something special. So it will start with like special occasions where you put more [00:41:00] effort in the designing process anyways, or for like a special occasion or something like that.
And then it will become like more like, okay, it's just a jacket. And then, you know so yeah, but that's like new shift like that huge shift that we see it to like, after a while as like such a normal thing is suddenly happens. And and then you buy, you find yourself buying a 3d printed underwear and it makes sense.
Yeah, so I'm curious to see if it's going to be our generation or a kid's generation or even if it's. Ever going to happen or not. But yeah, but that's going to happen overnight. And after a while we say, okay, that's normal to buy 3d printed underwear. Why not? They're very comfortable. They made to my measure.
And so why not? For, for me, this is what's so exciting about this. Application or the fashion clothing industry in particular, is this is the first [00:42:00] real 3d printing application that I'm aware of that I could very easily see blockchain
technology with, we'll say digital art or NFTs. 3D printing design and something that's functional all converge into one workflow or one application.
And to me, that's very exciting because all these different technologies or the things I've just mentioned have been kind of growing and organically developing as they do. But this is an actual application that could combine all of them and you could get a useful value from each individual thing. And to me, that's, that's really exciting because it might make I don't know, just the value that much better for both the artist and for the end Totally.
Definitely agree with you. And I think we see it. Like we, we see right now, first of all, they're all complimentary to each other if you use them in the right way. [00:43:00] And that's why I was so, that's why I'm so into it. I'm still researching on it. And I did a huge collaboration with a crypto based brand that it's very like very long conversation to explain everything about them, but you can find them also on my, in, on my online on my website.
It's called nouns. Some amazing experiments that they've been doing and they funded a full fashion collection, a full 3D printed fashion collection inspired by their brand. They're trying to be big as Disney but with being a completely CC zero brand. So there is so many cool experiments. It's such an like this experimental world.
So it's so it's, it's, it's makes sense to us as people were interested in 3d printing to, to be on this space. Because it's such an experimental world as well. So it's, it's really like complimentary and like, you know, it's, I really, really love that, that see this the, the connection between them and finding connections between [00:44:00] them.
and making harmony between them. But also another thing I want to, you know, I want you guys to keep in mind is like being like a viral, making like a viral video on YouTube or on Facebook or on TikTok. It's such, you know, it's such a, such a thing we're doing right now, but with 3D, with digital 3D printed fashion a jacket can become viral or a dress can become viral because some suddenly.
People are buying this NFT or 3D printing this piece of garments and like it's you don't have to hone your own, you know, physical store anymore, or you don't have to, to make like specific you know Like how do you say like gimmick? And suddenly everyone talking about your runway show, you can just create a beautiful jacket that people love it.
And you become like a viral designer, viral jacket, or, you know, a piece of garment can go viral. So that's, that's really exciting. What's what will happen when, you know, [00:45:00] things will have their own show. Or fashion items will have their own journey and their own life. And and that it's, it's hasn't has to be like physical in the physical world anymore.
It's could be like, I don't know, hybrid experience. You know, I'll just say, just think of the implications. So that's, that's another thing. Like you think of the implications instead of having, you know, a handful of designers, artists around the world. Being able to come up with something it's now open up to the masses.
So maybe some child who comes from an impoverished part of the world happens to get access to a computer and some design classes, they could come up with their own clothing and really potentially pull themselves out of that situation and maybe even help their community. And, and not only that, not only from the human standpoint, but just with the sheer amount of creativity that can.
Come about from this [00:46:00] because instead of say, you know, 500 designers around the world around working on this, you might have, you know, 5 million people working on this. And so that just opens up the and changes the game completely. Totally. Yeah. Democratizing fashion. That's how I felt when I, the first garment I ever printed was a red jacket that I wrote on, on it.
I wrote the word liberté, which is freedom in French, and I was embedded into the jacket. You can see it, the red jacket and I felt so empowered and free when I was able to design and 3D print a piece of garment all by myself and do it from the comfort of my house. As well, because back then I had six printers in my house running 24 7.
So yeah, so that's, that's exactly it. It's democratizing fashion and anyone who wants to be part of it can be part of it. And and you just need to be creative. And anyways, creativity is what's going to be, it's, it's, it's, what will be [00:47:00] the. The most important essence in, in our future. So that's, that's an amazing tool to be creative.
Especially if you're into fashion. But yeah, that's, that's that's very exciting. With, with that being said I'm going to ask you one last question for the audience. What resources would you recommend or that you use that you think the audience should take a look at? At least it doesn't have to be in 3D printing necessarily, but it could be something personal to you or it could be something that you think the audience should, should know about whether it's in fashion or not.
Yeah, I think like what's the tip I can give to our audience and especially for the creators that listen to us right now. And that's something I learned that be open with your ideas, share your ideas as much as possible, share your creativity. And share your processes and teach as many as, [00:48:00] you know, as, as much as you can, because that's, that's will inspire you.
It will come back to you like now I'm learning from my students, they're creating amazing things and I see what they're doing that's inspired me. And like, it's a, you know, it's like a constant Progress of creativity that started from generosity. I was also learning from people who shared their knowledge with me or was so, you know, generous with their time and with their knowledge.
One of the files that I was started with was an open source file from an architect. And that's lead me to create fabrics. You know, it was started with an open source file. So, so that's, that's really, really exciting. Like just to be open, don't be afraid. Someone will copy you share as much as, as you can.
And like, that's, we'll lead you to amazing you know, collaborations and conversations and projects. That's the biggest tip I could give from my [00:49:00] experience. That's why I'm here. They're in my ideas with you guys. Yeah, the more open people are, I mean, we, we experience it in our industry all, all the time.
I mean, we can only move forward the more that we share and the more we close off the, the harder everything becomes and I think that's, that's great advice. Thank you. And thank you for giving me this platform to, to share my ideas. With more, it was, it was amazing to hear all the things that you spoke about and I will do some more research on all the garments and stuff that you've produced. And thank you for your time. I mean, not just sharing with, with the audience, but just taking the time out of your day to, to talk to us about this topic. I think it was fantastic. Thank you so much. Absolutely. And I'll just say if there's kind of any, we'll say technology nerds out there that are really trying to look for someone that's, you know, doing [00:50:00] cool things with blockchain NFT design and 3d printing.
Denise is definitely a person who's sharing a lot and putting out some I'd say thought provoking content and information that I always kind of keep my eye out for updates cause you're definitely doing some really cool things out there and I'm really excited to see where it will go next.
Thank you so much. Yeah, I would love. I'm really like, I love new ideas and feel free to approach me if you have any thoughts on these topics. And last thing is repeat your web address so people can go check out your website. Yeah. So it's Danny Pellick, just my name, all connected, then it's bellic dot com.
All right. Well thank you everybody for joining us and we look forward to keeping up with you next time. Thank you so much.